See also: EllisB 21 March 2013 4:48pm Recommended 221 ‘Sack the bastard‘
Byrne must be removed. This was such a huge mistake, his position is now untenable.’ ~ Alex Otley 82 likes at discussion on Labour List
The jobseekers bill: a shameful retroactive stitch-up Posted on March 22, 2013
Labour’s Workfare Shame – A New Low For the Party That Pretends to Care About the Poor Posted on March 21, 2013
The only parties to cast all of their votes in opposition to Iain Duncan Smith’s retroactive lawmaking were Scottish National Party, Plaid Cymru, the Green party and the Alliance party of Northern Ireland.
Labour MPs who proudly did not betray us:
David Anderson (LAB)
Nicholas Brown (LAB)
Richard Burden (LAB)
Katy Clark (LAB)
Michael Connarty (LAB)
Jeremy Corbyn (LAB)
David Crausby (LAB)
Ian Davidson (LAB)
Jim Dobbin (LAB)
Bill Esterson (LAB)
Mary Glindon (LAB)
Fabian Hamilton (LAB)
Dai Havard (LAB)
Kelvin Hopkins (LAB)
Ian Lavery (LAB)
Mark Lazarowicz (LAB)
Fiona Mactaggart (LAB)
John McDonnell (LAB)
Jim McGovern (LAB)
Michael Meacher (LAB)
Ian Mearns (LAB)
Austin Mitchell (LAB)
Madeline Moon (LAB)
Grahame Morris (LAB)
Sandra Osborne (LAB)
Teresa Pearce (LAB)
Margaret Ritchie (LAB)
Steve Rotherham (LAB)
Barry Sheerman (LAB)
Jim Sheridan (LAB)
Dennis Skinner (LAB)
Graham Stringer (LAB)
Gerry Sutcliffe (LAB)
Joan Walley (LAB)
David Winnock (LAB)
Mike Wood (LAB)
Caroline Lucas (Green)
Mike Weir (SNP)
Eilidh Whiteford (SNP)
Hywel Williams (SNP)
Pete Wishart (SNP)
Angus Robertson (SNP)
Angus MacNeil (SNP)
Stewart Hosie (SNP)
William McCrea (DUP)
Jim Shannon (DUP)
Gregory Campbell (DUP)
Jeffrey Donaldson (DUP)
Nigel Dodds (DUP)
Mark Durkan (Plaid)
Jonathan Edwards (Plaid)
Elfyn Llwyd (Plaid)
Naomi Long (Alliance)
(LABOUR LIST) Update:
Actually – there were more than 40 Labour MPs rebelling tonight – there were 43.
40 MPs rebelled at the 2nd reading by voting against the Bill, and 35 voted against the 3rd reading.
There were a total of 43 MPs rebelling against the Labour whip.
The vast majority of Labour MPs abstained on the Jobseekers Bill this afternoon – as they were whipped to do – despite the fact that the Bill sought to protect sanctions for a system that Labour thinks is worse than useless. But a significant number of Labour MPs – 44 (almost 1 in 6) – voted against the Bill – when the “payroll” vote is removed, that’s a significant proportion of the backbenches.
Here is the list of Labour’s sanctions rebels – first up on the second reading
(40 rebels):
- Anderson, Mr David
- Brown, rh Mr Nicholas
- Burden, Richard
- Clark, Katy
- Connarty, Michael
- Corbyn, Jeremy
- Crausby, Mr David
- Davidson, Mr Ian
- Dobbin, Jim
- Esterson, Bill
- Flynn, Paul
- Glindon, Mrs Mary
- Godsiff, Mr Roger
- Goggins, rh Paul
- Havard, Mr Dai
- Healey, rh John
- Hoey, Kate
- Hopkins, Kelvin
- Howarth, rh Mr George
- Lavery, Ian
- Lazarowicz, Mark
- Mactaggart, Fiona
- McDonnell, John
- McGovern, Jim
- Meacher, rh Mr Michael
- Mearns, Ian
- Mitchell, Austin
- Moon, Mrs Madeleine
- Morris, Grahame M. (Easington)
- Osborne, Sandra
- Pearce, Teresa
- Riordan, Mrs Linda
- Rotheram, Steve
- Sheridan, Jim
- Skinner, Mr Dennis
- Sutcliffe, Mr Gerry
- Twigg, Derek
- Walley, Joan
- Winnick, Mr David
- Wood, Mike
And here’s the list of rebels at the third reading
(36 rebels):
- Anderson, Mr David
- Brown, rh Mr Nicholas
- Burden, Richard
- Clark, Katy
- Connarty, Michael
- Corbyn, Jeremy
- Crausby, Mr David
- Davidson, Mr Ian
- Dobbin, Jim
- Esterson, Bill
- Glindon, Mrs Mary
- Hamilton, Fabian
- Havard, Mr Dai
- Hopkins, Kelvin
- Lavery, Ian
- Lazarowicz, Mark
- Mactaggart, Fiona
- McDonnell, John
- McGovern, Jim
- Meacher, rh Mr Michael
- Mearns, Ian
- Mitchell, Austin
- Moon, Mrs Madeleine
- Morris, Grahame M. (Easington)
- Osborne, Sandra
- Pearce, Teresa
- Rotheram, Steve
- Sheerman, Mr Barry
- Sheridan, Jim
- Skinner, Mr Dennis
- Stringer, Graham
- Sutcliffe, Mr Gerry
- Walley, Joan
- Winnick, Mr David
- Wood, Mike
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When you remove the expenses rogues from the Noer,s what have you left? [ no pun intended lol ]
roganis 21 March 2013 5:38pm Recommend 106
@EllisB –
But critics within his party accuse Byrne of failing to mount any significant opposition to the government’s bill. “The problem is that Liam basically agrees with them,” said one.
The shadow employment minister, Stephen Timms, said Labour were supporting the emergency timetabling because they did not want the government to be in a position where “people who were sanctioned … well over a year ago are having to be refunded…
Which bastard did you mean or did you miss an “s”?
http://discussion.guardian.co.uk/comment-permalink/22146730
Michael Foot was a Better Labour Party Leader
Shame that the Wealth and Privilege Tories got in during 1983
Michael Foot was a Proper Socialist
The Present Leadership leaves a Lot to be Desired
If you study Labour history it was Jim Callaghan who handed power to Thatcher in 1979. Michael Foot was surrounded by a lot of people who only wanted power themselves. Kinnock laid the foundation for this bunch of careerists by provoking a civil war in the party in the 80s
Millions are effectively disenfranchised by Labours treacherous behaviour .
How can we vote for them when they laid the foundations of the attack on the benefits system by bringing in ATOS and the mentality of shirkers versus workers. The union leaders have a duty to stand up and be counted like Len McCluskey has. They should join the campaign to defend benefit rights which have been hard won down the years. We need a true Labour party that goes back to it’s roots. Those who defied Miliband are to be congratulated and could form the core of a fight back to win the Labour party back from those tory infil “traitors” who have used the party as means to enhance their careers.
Constituency parties should recall the so called representatives and make it clear if they do not start protecting working class people then they are out.
It just tells me that New Labour still has the upmost influence over the Labour party. A political party i haven’t voted for since 1997. It looks like i won’t be voting for them in 2015.
It is an Absolute Necessity that the Official Opposition Acts like an Opposition
Not a Tawdry Consensus of No Choice
Labour realised under Blair that to get into power it was easier to adopt policies to appeal to possible swing voters in Tory marginals than to persuade people to support socialist policies. Labour think they can rely on the left-wing votes as there isn’t a viable alternative so they are going after those who vote Tory or UKIP and tailoring their policies accordingly.
I applaud ian mearns & fellow mp s who stood thier ground under threat to thier jobs people like that are the backbone of what the labour party stood for many years ago. these people should not be forgotten.I was brought up by a working class family that have allways supported labour,but i can tell you its just not the same anymore ,its a case of i’m allright jack ,,,look after No1 ,there does’nt seem to be any brotherly love anymore ,thatcher brought in the dog eat dog situation and was in gov-t so long most people grew up with that attitude. there’s only one way to change this and that is to have a goverment who cares for thier people ,but i dont think that will ever happen again in my beloved britain. I have always (and family generations before me) supported labour but now i am very dissalusioned by whats happeniing in my country.myself my 5 children and thier partners are seriously contemplating voting ukip ,might be worth the change and it might be a wake-up call for the labour party ….
it’s a disgrace if you ask me picken on the disabled ,poor,not every one milk’s the system ther is disabled people who genuially can’t work and are sick ,yes it’s right it’s dog eat dog ther isn’t enough job’s and are low paid as well ,instead of the government picken on the poor get the money bck from the bank’s and stop bailing them out ,everything as gone up but not are money and the bed room tax is a disgrace as well ,Cameron didn’t you have a disabled son so you should understand you’s are millionaries wer not ,stop the atos and bed room tax no one can pay this