HomeBlogEpileptic Colin Traynor, 29, had massive seizure and died 3 months after DWP/AtoS ‘fit-for-work’ ruling ~ Michael Meacher MP
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  • Laz September 22, 2012 at 6:24 pm

    HM Government are making excuses .Too many have already lost their lives .Charges of Domicide should be bought against the Ministers resposible for the implementation of the new Atos test & Atos made to state their contractual obligations revealing expected figures or payments to be given if they comply with the Ministerys figures.The tests should be immediately suspended indefinately and all the cases where appeals were upheld reviewed to see where and who is responsible for re-catorising proved entiteled people as un-entiteled to the relevant benefit.Relatives of those who have Died should be contacted and asked to report the conditions of their family member after assesment and being told they were fit for work.Once gathered and reviewed all evidence should be presented to the International courts for charges to be bought agains those responsible .Those who then volenteer relevant information should be exempted in this case from prosecution under the official secrets act so they can tell the court the truth about the training and expected results they were told to get and the pressure they were put under .
    Many being tested are not able to get all the information the form requires as it is quite intense and to cop out and say help in filling it out is offered does not help people to find or ask for medical notes or past appointment dates and results.A client who is obviously un-well or unable cannot be expected to carry this out &especialy as many medications will effect somes ability to do that.
    Politicians are passing the buck to the client instead of accepting responsability .

  • celia September 22, 2012 at 6:56 pm

    F****** murderers!

  • fight the wca/welfare cuts. September 22, 2012 at 7:15 pm

    10. Consciousness during waking moments.
    10 (a) At least once a week, has an involuntary episode of lost or altered consciousness resulting in significantly disrupted awareness or concentration. 15 points.
    10 (b) At least once a month, has an involuntary episode of lost or altered consciousness resulting in significantly disrupted awareness or concentration. 6 points.
    10 (c) None of the above apply. 0 points.

  • Linda Ashford September 22, 2012 at 7:18 pm

    This is a shocking denial of responsibility by Mark Hoban. It is clear even to the average reader of this case that the young man concerned had, over his lifetime, suffered from very real health problems, and the fact that he was fitting less often should never have been taken as evidence that it was in some way improving. This is the problem when you have non-specialist, and sometime not even GP level, ‘medical’ people administering a system that is designed to eliminate people from disability benefits of various kinds. This system which operates on the same level as the way insurance companies assess claimants, via a computer check list, is not fit for purpose.

    I believe that the government know this and do not care, that both sides of the house have been complicit in setting up this system, and that all the tinkering by Professor Harrington will not make a grossly inequitable system work.

    If there was even a possibility for many of the people who are being assessed as fit for work to actually go into work, which given the current state of unemployment does not look that easy to achieve, they will need support and help. Up to now that support and help has largely been available to them in the form of the various benefits they get. Chief among these is DLA which has allowed many people, including myself for some years, to remain at work.

    That the Minister should even think that it is possible for the sheer numbers of people who are having their benefits withdrawn to return to work without this help is not just ludicrous, it is a travesty in terms of social justice. Reading of these cases is absolutely heartbreaking, and knowing that this country has fallen so far is almost as unbearable.

    My thoughts are with this young mans family and with all the people, disabled and their families, who are struggling under the weight of legislation that should never have been enacted, and a government whose agenda is not in the interests of the people who elected them.

  • kelpimare September 22, 2012 at 7:29 pm

    All the evidence….the DWP, in regards to incapacity benefit recipients, hold all previous evidence. Apparently not all decision makers are troubling themselves to avail themselves of past evidence.
    Mark Hoban is just another self-serving MP who, in very real terms, doesn’t give a Dan about those who are being put under pressure…work, or lose £70 a week. So what if your consultant says you aren’t fit, IDS has a pal who claims disability (basically) is all in the mind……nothing that psychologists/psychiatrists can’t put right…..
    IF, and I say IF, IDS set this whole thing in motion, cancelling Labours assessment period, and speeding the process up, all with good intentions to genuinely help the vulnerable (yes, I know, helping vulnerable is NOT the Tory way)…..then I’d like to remind him….THE ROAD TO HELP IS PAVED WITH GOOD INTENTIONS, and YOU, IDS, are making the vulnerables’ time on this earth as hellish as you possibly can. Better, in Tory Britain, to be a tax-avoider or tax-evader than ill, disabled, unemployed, old, single-parent……..

  • Graham Venn September 22, 2012 at 7:45 pm

    “they were only following orders” is a invalid defence. In the case those who set up and empower the system were questioned and blamed the people they instruct on policy for the mess up. Ultimate repsonsibility LIES with the government for this whole system and thye metality that goes with it. They should be changing the system and saying sorry.

    they may save money now but what amounts of compensation will tghye be paying out in a few years time! there must be some legal redress for these poor families who have lost loved ones.

  • budgie September 22, 2012 at 8:25 pm

    Hoban says claimants should provide evidence to support their claim at the earliest opportunity, but when I recently filled in my form it asks for details of your GP and other Health Professionals treating you and says the DWP may wish to con tact them. That being the case, why put the onus on the claimant to provide evidence? Why cannot the decision makers obtain reports BEFORE ATOS undertake the WCA, to enable those reports to be taken into consideratioon?

    Hoban’s suggestion is fine, if GP’s are prepared to provide written evidence for their patients. I asked my GP and the answer was that “they do not provide reports (even if I paid for it) because the DWP will contact them if necessary.”

    • roger Allnot September 24, 2012 at 12:51 pm

      Interesting point. My experience and research is that most GPs are glad that Atos is taking the flak for WCA, as it saves them having to say no to potential claimants. The GP websites are full of comments about the abuse they suffered from patients during IB days, it seems that WCA has got rid of this problem

  • Andrew September 22, 2012 at 8:27 pm

    mail@markhoban.com email him !!!!!

  • Dave Rowlands September 23, 2012 at 8:54 am

    The only thing Hoban got right is that the DWP “Decision Makers” are the ones who decide whether you live or die. My ATOS medical report basically siad I wouldn’t be able to work and that I will not get any better but the DWP “Decision Maker” placed me in the “Work Related Activity Group”. I believe the only reason I was placed in the WRAG is I’m in receipt of contributory based ESA and after 365 days I can be cut off.

    We need to do something about the sustained attacks on us by this government but I fear that finding a politician with balls enough to change, and I mean really change this is an impossible task.

  • ODIN September 23, 2012 at 10:13 am

    I agree with Dave, it’s going to take MP’s with a conscience and a heart of courage to fight this evil within Parliament, after all how the hell did these laws get passed in the first place? because MP’s voted for them that’s why. I was always a Labour voter (never again) but it was New Labour that started this whole evil purpose, I believe that should never be forgotten.

  • Linda Nightingale September 23, 2012 at 10:40 am

    I always liked Micheal Meacher. He is one of the few really honest politicians. I just hope this scandal of people dying while being found fit for work, comes back to haunt these politicians. It hasn’t really dawned on the general public yet. But it will one day, just like Hillsborough.

  • jeffery davies September 23, 2012 at 12:24 pm

    rip that will will be most of us as daily they cause more deaths but will they stand against it nah they allow this firm atos dwp daily to attack us stand up and be counted but am afraid that they wont they want us gone quietly jeff3

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