HomeBlog‘Is anyone listening? Is this how the Nazis got away with so many atrocities?’ ~ by Fiona Goffe
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  • DAVID A SHAW June 14, 2012 at 6:38 pm

    The ignorant will never listen, but those of us who care are trust me, and this government and its cruel fascist and hateful regime can only survive as long as people do nothing as you say. When the next round of cuts hit at the end of the year, watch the screaming start, and then you will see a change i assure you. For those who are currently not affected by this governments policies will be so in a way they had not even considered. And in a nation where money is the prime mover, this will be a major issue. There is a lot of grass roots activism as you know i am sure, and Europe wide as the corrupt policies of the Banks and governments in cahoots with them bite hard, the people will have their voice, and those who thought they could take the blood of the vulnerable and drink it will find themselves facing an outcome even THEY could never imagine. THEY SHALL NOT PASS !

  • kasbah June 14, 2012 at 6:38 pm

    This is an excellent article. Evil happens when good people do nothing.

    • Elaine August 14, 2012 at 9:05 am

      I SO agree with you. I have only just found this website so the answer to my next question may be on here somewhere …….. what can we do to help and stop all this?

    • DAGMAR LOFTS November 11, 2012 at 7:52 pm

      I STUDIED GERMAN IN UNIVERSITY AND THERE WERE MANY GERMANS THAT DID TRY TO STOP THINGS, IF THEY KNEW, OFTEN THEIR KIDS WOULD BE AT RISK, OR THEIR BUSINESSES. THEY STOPPED THE PEOPLE THAT WAMTED TO MAKE A CHANGE WITH HARSHER TREATMENTS THAN WE COULD IMAGINE, MANY GERMANS ENDED UP BEING KILLED FOR NOT LISTENING TO HITLER. THE GERMANS THAT KNEW ABOUT THE ATROCITIES WOULD CHANGE THINGS IF THEY COULD BUT THEY WERE BEING WATCHED UNBELIEVABLY. HITLER WAS A SICK, EVIL FORCE.

  • geoff hobbs June 14, 2012 at 7:27 pm

    this is a very sad article,i have had dealings with ATOS as a trade union rep and have found them tobe totally uncaring and incompetant,it disgusts me that we have become a nation that turns a blind eye to the needs of the most vulnerable in our country,those on benifits have been so demonised that they are now all viewed as scroungers and i really believe that some people in are nation would be happy to see these “scroungers” packed off to concentration camps,all people care about in this day and age are their own material gains and they view those on benifits as freeloaders who they are paying for and blame them for the economic crisis we are suffering and not the banks,the debt is being paid for with the lifes of the most needy and very few seem to actually care

  • karen morgan June 14, 2012 at 7:30 pm

    we must stick together on this one, this is a mistake the government will regret for many years to come, some kind of reform, yes, but to target the sick and vunerable of this country, makes me ashamed to be British.

  • jeffrey davies June 14, 2012 at 7:31 pm

    the storm troopers do not listen and smile with glee at every body whos taken off benefits as its one less to pay out to ,but they do they pay thier taxes like the rest of us i think not but put thier hands in the till daily paying for thier lifestyle in london while we go without and most couldnot keep the heat on in the winter as we cant afford it and its the same with food can not eat every day so skips meals and now they want us quite and gone but we still shout out but at the moment only a few hear but it will get bigger some of us will lose before we win but it gives the strengh to carry on jeff3

  • Jaki Rundle June 14, 2012 at 8:48 pm

    I was on the phone last night to my mother. Just a normal, catch-up phone call. I happened to mention that I hadn’t been sleeping recently and thought it might be the weather. She said, maybe it’s all that’s going on with the disability benefits. I burst into tears. I am not in the dire straits that the people in this article are or have been in, but not only is it the financial worry, it is the attitude of people and the government behind all these changes. I now feel that I am ‘not allowed’ to be disabled. That somehow, I have to push and push myself to be as ‘normal’ as I can be. This is at the root of all this. It is having no understanding as to what it is to be a person with a disability and live with that disability. It is the subconscious (or not so subconscious) wish of many to irradicate ‘the disabled’ or at least, ‘normalise’ us all so you won’t be able to tell; stuck behind a desk somewhere out of sight and out of mind.

  • Celia June 14, 2012 at 9:40 pm

    There will come a time when this government, their rich friends and lackeys will pay for every death they have caused. They have blood on their hands and we will not forget it!

  • Socrates June 14, 2012 at 10:13 pm

    Aber nur Molotows aufhellen können diese Dunkelheit.

    Wir halten zusammen,
    wir halten einander aus,
    wir halten zueinander;
    niemand hält uns auf!

    We stick together,
    We endure one another,
    We hold onto one another,
    No one holds us back!

    • JJ June 14, 2012 at 10:53 pm

      “But just to brighten the darkness of Molotov: We stick together, we keep with each other, we hold each other; and no one can stop us!”

  • JJ June 14, 2012 at 10:15 pm

    Your Name: – Darren
    Email Subject – Yes, Fiona Goffe, I Am Listening
    Your Message: – I’m also writing, and comparing the UK today with Hitler’s Germany of the 1930s when the atrocities against the disabled, the mentally ill, the Jews and the Rom began. Check out my FB page at https://www.facebook.com/darren.lynch.796?sk=wall . I openly accuse the senior members of this government of being Nazi sympathisers, as it is known that Cameron himself has far-right-wing views and they are following him without questioning his projects. Indeed the likes of Iain Duncan-Smith, just like Heinrich Himmler, has taken it upon himself to get creative in the further attacks being made upon the disabled. Have a read, then drop me an email. Cheers

  • Anita Bellows June 14, 2012 at 10:30 pm

    I do not fully agree with this. A lot of people who are not disabled are keeping informed and trying to fight this battle. A lot of them are not indifferent, they just do not how to engage with disabled people or disabled issues, because they feel that disabled people are in a better position to present their case and should be speaking for themselves. It leads to what seems to be a lack of engagement of their part, which is in fact an acknowledgement that however their level of understanding, they can never fully understand what it means to be disabled unless they share that experience.

    • JJ June 14, 2012 at 10:49 pm

      Well, they’re not doing much of a job joining with us to change it, are they? Especially not in the Tory ‘Heart’lands!

    • JJ June 15, 2012 at 4:50 am

      “in fact an acknowledgement that however their level of understanding, they can never fully understand what it means to be disabled unless they share that experience.”
      – An interesting point. How can the gaps be bridged, then?

      I don’t have to be a member of an oppressed group in order to refuse to be a bystander while I see an oppressor attack, do I? They didn’t have to be Jews – in the example given by Fiona above – to know that they should have acted while her father was being carted off to a concentration camp.

      As Yehuda Bauer said:

      “Thou shalt not be a victim.
      Thou shalt not be an oppressor.
      But most of all, thou shalt not be a bystander.”
      — Yehuda Bauer

    • m. Lloyd September 14, 2012 at 12:30 pm

      What you are talking about is know in social psychology as ‘The bystander effect’ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bystander_effect) It’s where you know about something because you’re watching it happen, but you fail to help or get involved because your sure someone else will seal with it.

  • Anita Bellows June 15, 2012 at 12:04 am

    No, you are absolutely right, there are not doing much of a job joining you, but you are making my point, because as long as you keep dividing the world between them and you, you will make more difficult for them to join you. You cannot say on one hand that everybody should understand because they might one day become disabled, and on the other hand, emphasise the divide. I look at this as a human right issue, not only because it is an unifying factor which brings disabled and not disabled people together, but also because it is a human right issue.

    • JJ June 15, 2012 at 4:31 am
      • Anita Bellows June 15, 2012 at 10:10 am

        No you are not. I am just uncomfortable by the distinction made between us and them in this context. The distinction is less between able and disabled people than between people who believe that the state has a duty to support the most vulnerable people, and those who are determined to destroy the welfare system because they believe that the market can be an adequate substitute. It is an ideological battle in which disabled people are caught, and it is where the line lies.

        • JJ June 15, 2012 at 10:17 am

          Yes – I understand now, and I could not agree more with you.

  • paul barnard August 13, 2012 at 7:49 pm

    Anita Bellows
    No you are not. I am just uncomfortable by the distinction made between us and them in this context. The distinction is less between able and disabled people than between people who believe that the state has a duty to support the most vulnerable people, and those who are determined to destroy the welfare system because they believe that the market can be an adequate substitute. It is an ideological battle in which disabled people are caught, and it is where the line lies.

  • jim August 13, 2012 at 10:18 pm

    There are too many humans on this planet. around 4 billion too many! this planet cannot sustain our race with our population this big! if you were the one wit the decisions on your shoulders how would you solve it?

    • m. Lloyd September 14, 2012 at 12:35 pm

      Well, Jim, i say the first ones to do us the favour of topping themselves should be the biggots,. what ya think?

  • Margaret Georgiadou August 13, 2012 at 11:30 pm

    Yes – I have been posting comments for ages just like many above. The true ‘chavs’ of this country are in government – feckless, irresponsible and morally dubious – not in the Job Centres or on Disability allowances. More is lost in tax evasion than is paid in benefits etc etc. Folk don’t want to know partly because they have been brainwashed into fearing the label – chav’; time we used it for the real layabouts led by Cameron, who want the 99% to work to keep the 1% in luxury.

  • Brunothebear August 13, 2012 at 11:31 pm

    ‘Arbeit Macht Frei’ is being taking very seriously by some of the UK media…

    Daily Mail Blog Post Uses Infamous Nazi Slogan As Advice To Graduates.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/13/daily-mail-nazi-slogan-advice-graduates_n_1773200.html?utm_hp_ref=media

  • Ralph August 14, 2012 at 12:24 am

    Making ill-informed comparisons to Nazism, and calling this government ‘fascist’ weakens your case considerably and makes your argument look stupid. It has the opposite effect to what you want to achieve.

    • JJ August 14, 2012 at 1:08 pm

      Did you actually even bother to read Fiona’s article???

  • Tony Greenstein August 14, 2012 at 11:23 am

    Much of this is truly awful. I will try and reblog this as soon as I can

  • Jello Biafra August 14, 2012 at 8:22 pm

    It’s the unsupportable amount of mental illness diagnosis that burdens the state. One of the best things for someone experiencing mental illness is to move into simple constructive work. Irony is the stigma after diagnosis means they won’t get a job and a diagnosis legally disqualifies people from many professions. Psychiatry is like a religion nobody doubts it or questions it and it has no proofs. None of the illnesses are organic meaning they don’t show on any blood test or MRI (until after treatment) these diagnoses are never questioned and never changed nobody is expected to get better (being treated by psychiatrists) they last a lifetime. Psychiatrists need to keep themselves in business so more and more people are diagnosed.

    Consequentially the physically disabled are targeted and people will die.

    • JJ August 15, 2012 at 2:14 am

      That’s a deeply flawed analysis and it is outrageous to suggest that people with mental illness are not really ill and that physically disabled people suffer because of it!!!

      ‘It’s the unsupportable amount of mental illness diagnosis that burdens the state. One of the best things for someone experiencing mental illness is to move into simple constructive work’???

      ‘Irony is..’ : Wish it was you who was being ironic! This could heve been written by Iain Duncan Smith!

      You have a lot of self-educating to do on disability issues. Suggest you get cracking! :-(((

  • jo September 14, 2012 at 9:43 am

    Personally I don’t mind paying taxes which go to help the sick, the weak or the vulnerable in society. What I object to is paying taxes that go towards corporate tax breaks and ‘welfare’ for big corporations. The corporations that dodge taxes and the rich people with their snouts in the public trough are not being targeted. Quite the opposite. But then they’re the kind of people that Nazis like Cameron and Osborne grew up and went to school with. Wake up Britain.

  • nikos zouros September 14, 2012 at 11:21 am

    the only way to make a real change , is to get out of our little cells ,and care for the person near us.

  • jim September 14, 2012 at 11:08 pm

    Nature lives in balance.. when an imbalance occurs natural selection re-balances. All arguments of Religion and Creation aside the simple fact remains that the human species does not adhere to this balance and thus we have approx 650,000,000 people worldwide who require extra support in order to lead normal lives. It is estimated that for every Disabled person 1 other person must dedicate their life or profession in order to care for them. This means that approx 20% if the worlds population are busy dribbling into their chairs or wiping dribble of chairs… In nature most of the dribblers would not be……………………

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